Carmine/Gameplay

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Introduction[]

Health: 10801 (Originally 10000)
Play-style: Footsies, Pressure, Okizeme (Wakeup Offense), Setplay
Dash Type: Run
Specialty: Dissolve

Some of Carmine attacks consume his own health (300 total) to set a pool of blood on the stage. Pools can be turned into various attacks that consume the pools. This is the way Carmine keeps pressure on the opponent and controls space in the match. If in a mirror match, the Dissolve has a color palette that corresponds with the respective Carmine player to differentiate. When in Vorpal state, 150 is needed instead to utilize a Dissolve. Only two dissolves total can be set on the stage at a time.

Carmine is a character who uses his own health to perform his special moves and/or their extensions, along with being able to absorb his health back through his throw attacks. By using his specials a pool of blood called "Dissolve" appears on the ground. He uses these pools for more attacks. He has a lot of specials that move around the stage and specials that hold the opponent, and is zoner who can work both up close and from afar in a dangerous fashion; tied in with his fast running speed and he is by far one of the most aggressive setplay-type characters in a fighting game to date.

Focus mainly on trapping your opponent to finish the battle swiftly. Projectiles like "Spin around!" and 6B are quite strong in their own right, but they consume your own health. 6C when fully-charged however, is his only-yet-amazing standing overhead if utilized correctly. Be careful not to spend all your health in zoning (even though Carmine's HP total is fairly high) for it can add up overtime and place him in more disadvantageous positions; plus, getting a perfect win with Carmine can be a challenge in itself as well as trying to maintain a healthy life-lead. This overall, results in the necessity to control the GRD gauge as much as possible in order to enter Vorpal state for better HP management.

With this in mind, much of Carmine's gameplan involves making his foe submit to his plethora of lockdowns and his large-range normals, which also give him a powerful okizeme game and amazing neutral. Nearly any hit inflicted by a good Carmine player can either lead into a long damage combo extension or a vital knockdown into a lockdown setup. His tick throws that also drain back health from his opponent also add more to his reward.

Despite this, most of his stronger-spacing normals that lack forward momentum (outside of his dashing normals) forces him to rely solely on the range of the said normals, frame traps and certain usage of his specials in order to form a continuous offense. With this in mind, Carmine can easily be beaten out through powerful reversal options should his offense reveal any slight gaps for good defensive-players to exploit. That said, he also has his lack of meterless reversals to consider.

A unique trait of Carmine's is that his dash has a slight startup compared to other conventional run-type dashes.

Move List[]

Normal Moves[]

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
	180	Crouch/Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Small horizontal swipe with his hand covered in blood. Smart Steer starts after inputting the command again. Start-up is 6 frames. Smart Steer: 5A, 5B, 6C (cannot be charged), 623B, 214C

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
	170	Crouch/Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Crouches and does a small swipe with his hand covered in blood. Can be rapid-fired. Start-up is 7 frames.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
	550	Crouch/Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Swings forward crystals of blood underhanded. Brilliant move to restrain your opponent.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
	450	Crouch	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Sticks leg out and kicks. Reach is a bit lacking for a standard crouching medium attack.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
Dash	755	Crouch/Stand	SP/EX/CS
	Same motion as 3B. Fast recovery and inflicts a small spiraling knockdown on hit that knocks fairly far away.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
	621	Crouch/Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Slashes outward with blood crystals in front of him. Long reach.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
	540	Crouch	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Crouches and flail-slashes forward with blood crystals. Just like 5B, this one is also very important tool in Carmine's space game. Sweeps, and is a standard knockdown/combo tool.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
Dash	850	Crouch/Stand	SP/EX/CS
	Same motion as 6C, but instead slams the opponent down via a plummet.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
j.	140	Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Swipes outward-aimed downwards. Fast recovery and is a decent air-to-ground.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
j.	410	Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Attacks obliquely downwards with a wide slash of blood crystals.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
j. (Hold to charge)	310(420)	Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Swings downward with both arms to slash downwards with blood crystals. Deals 2 hits. Good for cross-ups. Fully charged version increases the size of the hitbox while also inflicting plummet on airborne hit.

Throw[]

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
+	1965
	Carmine grabs the opponent by the throat and then slams them to the ground. Steals 400 health from them during the attack.

Force Function[]

Input	English Name			Japanese Name			Damage	Guard	Cancel
+, any direction to control (Air OK)	Twist! (Twist up!)			捲れ!			352
	* Consumes health and leaves a Dissolve; but ONLY if no other Dissolves are around. Carmine gestures, causing a Dissolve puddle to move in a direction a few spaces, damaging the opponent in its way. Can direct it left or right to make it re-position accordingly, though it will always move forward by default if no direction is applied. Can be used to lay the Dissolve in a more favorable position, or to flank the opponent with another zoning tool. Cannot cross-up despite being able to hit the foe from behind (as only Carmine's position matters). Only consumes Carmine's health if used to create a fresh Dissolve pool with no other pools left behind beforehand. If used in midair, it will halt and carry Carmine's aerial momentum.

Command Normals/Unique Arts[]

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
>	490	Crouch/Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Slashes with blood crystals via a stepping lift swipe with his other hand as a followup from 5B. Cancel-able with specials only on block. It is also a launcher.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
	755	Crouch/Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS
	Kicks obliquely upwards via an agile backspin roundhouse kick. Upper body invincibility that makes it one of Carmine's prime anti-airs. Slightly slow recovery but high damage. Inflicts spiraling knockdown that launches less further than the Dashing B version.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
	720	Crouch/Stand/Air	CS*
	* Consumes health and leaves a Dissolve. Projectile. Shoots a spear of blood horizontally. Can clash with projectiles, and does chip damage as a special move. Fast start-up. Consumes health and sets a Dissolve where the projectile lands (on hit or block) and when it crashes into the far opposite corner. In Exe: Late[st], it seems to no longer inflict chip damage on block. Overall, this move due to being very easy to spam should not be recklessly used as it can eat through Carmine's health pool too fast, and may cause him to be predictable. In exchange for its fast travel speed, there exist other projectile moves that have faster startup which make projectile wars with this attack rather risky. * Chain Shift only on hit.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
>		Crouch/Stand/Air
	* Additional move that is automatically used if there's a blood pool on the stage. This move consumes the pool. Brand new move in Exe: Late[st], Carmine immediately launches a spiked-curve of solid blood upward to sweep his opponent via the Dissolve left behind by the prior 6B. Can also be performed from the midair version of 6B when Carmine’s spike throw hits the ground on whiff. Uses up all dissolve pools with no HP cost.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
(Hold to charge)	650(740)	(Crouch)/Stand	SP/JC/EX/CS*
	Does a turning downward arm flail to slash out blood crystals in an arc. Becomes an overhead when charged with a bigger hitbox. * Chain Shift only on hit.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
(Hold to charge)	540	Crouch/Stand	SP/EX/CS
	Slashes forward and upward some blood crystals with a small lean added. Longer reach than 2C. Can be charged up in Exe: Late[st], which causes a wallbounce with larger reach.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
j.	720	Crouch/Stand/Air	CS*
	* Consumes health and leaves a Dissolve. Midair version of 6B where Carmine shoots a spear of blood diagonally downwards at 45 degrees while turning in the air. Inflicts chip damage as a special move, and halts Carmine's aerial momentum. Consumes health and sets a Dissolve. In Exe: Late[st], it seems to no longer inflict chip damage on block. * Chain Shift only on hit.

Input	Damage	Guard	Cancel
j. >		Crouch/Stand/Air
	* Additional move that is automatically used if there's a blood pool on the stage. This move consumes the pool. New move in Exe: Late[st]. Same as the grounded version followup, but only done in midair before Carmine hits the ground and moves him forward through the air upon executing it as well as launching the opponent up into the air. Uses up all dissolve pools with no HP cost.

Special Moves/Sure-Killing Arts[]

Input	English Name			Japanese Name			Damage	Guard	Cancel
// Air OK	Spin! (Spin around!)			まわれェ！			982/1224/2174	Crouch/Stand	EX*/CS
	* Consumes health and leaves a Dissolve. Tosses out a wheel of spinning blood at a set height in front of himself as he spins slightly towards himself before it drops to the ground to form a blood pool. A version summons it low to the ground while the B version has it slightly higher (making it work akin to an anti-air). Midair versions alter his aerial momentum upon usage by making Carmine bounce back a bit (midair B version also has him fire the wheel lower to the ground). If Carmine is hit when the projectile is out, then the said projectile will instantly disperse and not turn into a blood pool. EX version however, has its hitbox occur sooner while also sending out a larger blood wheel. * EX version is not EX cancel-able. If inputted fast enough, it can be whiff-cancelled into other moves such as an EX move or Infinite Worth just before Carmine tosses out the wheel. Regardless, the non-EX versions have their hitboxes come out quite slowly to the point where that while it works as a frame trap, it's sub-optimal to extend blockstrings with due to the window being wide enough for nearly any reversal option to break through.

Input	English Name	Japanese Name	Damage	Guard	Cancel
				Crouch/Stand/Air
	* Additional move that is automatically used if there's a blood pool on the stage. This move consumes the pool. From the Dissolve, a ground-submerged-spinning blood sickle starts to spin towards the opponent and hits their feet but isn't a low attack. Sweeps opponent on hit.

Input	English Name			Japanese Name			Damage	Guard	Cancel
//	Pulverize! (Mash 'em up!)			すり潰せ！			1387/1430/1475	Crouch/Stand	EX/CS
	Swings blood with both hands inward to cause a cross splash of blood crystals around himself. EX version creates a massive whirlwind of blood instead. Despite its appearance, both the A and B versions hit low (with the A version occur slower with faster recovery, and the B version execution faster with a bit of lag). In Exe:Late[st] both A and B versions have added upper-body invincibility on startup. EX version however on all game versions, has full invincibility on startup. EX version not EX cancel-able and can be cancelled with a Chain Shift only on hit.

Input	English Name	Japanese Name	Damage	Guard	Cancel
				Crouch/Stand/Air
	* Additional move that is automatically used if there's a blood pool on the stage. This move consumes the pool. Arc-shaped line of blood crystals appear. Draws the opponent closer on block, which may warrant some caution if the opponent is tempted to break out of pressure. Untechable time from this move pretty long, making it useful in combos. Uses up all dissolve pools.

Input	English Name			Japanese Name			Damage	Guard	Cancel
(/)/ (Hold to charge)	Thrust! (Punch right through!)			ブチ抜け！			1900/2008	Crouch/Stand/(Air)	EX*/CS
	* Consumes health and leaves a Dissolve ONLY for the charged up version. Dissolves left by this move are an exception and they can only be used for its follow-up move. Carmine plants blood crystal to the ground via a downward arm swing and then swings his other arm upward for another blood crystal for a double strike. A and B version deal same amount of damage, though the B version is placed slightly more ahead of the A version but has a bit more frame disadvantage on block. The EX version instead causes him to leap up into the air in a turn to swing down a wad of blood splashes directly below him that create a brief array of blood crystals that inflict multiple hits and minor knockdown. EX version is air blockable and not EX cancel-able.

Input	English Name	Japanese Name	Damage	Guard	Cancel
				Crouch/Stand/Air
	* Additional move that is automatically used if there's a blood pool on the stage. This move consumes the pool. Performed from the charged-up version of Punch right through!, where Carmine only tosses down a single blood ball in front (which consumes his health like normal). A setup move that you can delay by holding the respective button and also works with his Force Function. Activates by releasing the button, where the aforementioned blood ball rises up to form a wad of airborne spikes that knock away on hit. This unique dissolve left behind by the said charged-up version of the prior move does not interact with any other dissolve-triggering-attacks. Used to often punish opponents with unconventional frame traps, and since the other dissolve-based moves cannot trigger it, other set-dissolves can be used to mask it from the foe to add more mindgames.

Input	English Name			Japanese Name			Damage	Guard	Cancel
//	Launch! (Launch through!)			突き上げろ！			893/1200	Crouch	EX/CS
	* Consumes health and leaves a Dissolve. Spike of crystal blood rises from ground, hitting low and launching a small bit on hit. A and B version deal same amount of damage, but differ in location with B being placed further than A. Cannot be placed past the corner. EX appears below the opponent via tracking and "freezes" them via encasing them inside a bigger blood crystal, which allows for continuous attacks before they break out (or some okizeme setup via setting another Dissolve). However, any form of grab will miss while the opponent is frozen, and the trapped opponent's physical hurtbox disappears which prevents them from being pushed (thus Carmine can walk through them).

Input	English Name	Japanese Name	Damage	Guard	Cancel
				Crouch/Stand/Air
	* Additional move that is automatically used if there's a blood pool on the stage. This move consumes the pool. Identical blood pillar also appears from Dissolve. Similarly to the normal one, this one also rises the opponent airborne. EX version of Launch through! uses up all dissolve pools.

Input	English Name			Japanese Name			Damage	Guard	Cancel
	Give Me That! (Hand that over to me!)			そいつをよこしやがれ！			1855		CS
	EX-only command throw where Carmine choke-lifts his foe and forces blood crystals through their body, then tosses them aside behind himself. Has more range than his normal throw and some startup invincibility which makes it one of his main reversals. Despite it being possible to use in combos, the proration of this attack is rather heavy.

Infinite Worth[]

Input	English Name			Japanese Name			Damage	Guard	Cancel
	Hahahaha! Be Devoured! (Hyahahahahaha! Devour them up!)			ヒャハハハハハ！喰らい尽くせ！			4199-5075 (Min. 1800)	Crouch/Stand/Air
	Throws out small projectiles of blood in a slightly upward-angled spread. If any one of them hit the opponent, the blood inside of them will then shred them up, and then Carmine motions his hand back to cause the blood to explode and launch his foe vertically upward.

Infinite Worth EXS[]

Input	English Name			Japanese Name			Damage	Guard	Cancel
+++	You shit! This is the end!			クソが！これで仕舞だァ！			3756
	Usable only when your own health is under 30 % Animation: Carmine summons a Dissolve blood pool to rise and hit the opponent. He then swings his hand back to summon blood crystals to stab the opponent, followed up with even more blood crystals from all directions to surround and stab the opponent. As Carmine yells out the attack's name, the blood crystals shatter as the screen goes black.

Combos[]

BASIC COMBOS:

5A>5B>2B>5C>6C>2C>623A
5B>2C>6B>2C>236A>(Dash)>j.A>j.B>j.C
2C>B+C>214C>2C>5C>623B>j.A>j.B>j.C

* The term "Activation" in these combos refers to the Dissolve follow-up of the move "Rip apart!". Combos that have "Release" mean you need to delay "Rip apart!"'s follow-up until that point by holding the button.

MIDSCREEN:

5A Starter

5A>5B>2C>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C
5A>5B>2C>6B>2C>236A>(Switch sides)>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>623B>Charged j.C
5A>Activation>236A>Charged j.C>2B>2C>j.6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>66C
5A>5B>2C>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>2C>623A>66C
5A>5B>2C>6B>2C>236A>(Dash)>Charged j.C>(Dash)>2B>2C>Charged 214A

2A Starter

2A>2C>J6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>66C
2A>5B>2B>2C>3C>22B>22C>(Anything you want...)
2A>5B>2C>TK.6B>dash(66) 5B>623B>236A>j.[C]>run(66)>2B>2C> okizeme(236X or 214X)
2A>5B>2C>TK.6B>j.A>j.B>j.C>land 3B>2C>623B>66C> okizeme(236X>FF or 236X)

5B Starter

5B>2C>6B>5B(Whiff)>5B>623B>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C
5B>2C>6B>5B(Whiff)>5B>3B>j.B>j.C>2C
5B>2C>6B>2C>236A>(Switch sides)>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>623B>Charged 214A>3B>Activation>Charged j.C>66C
5B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>j.6B>2C>623A>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C
5B>2C>6B>2C>236A>66C>Charged 214A>5B>Activation>Charged j.C>j.B>2C
5B>2B>2C>6B>3B>623B>(Walk backwards)>j.6B>Dash C>236B>(Walk backwards)>Charged j.C>j.236B>Dash C>Charged 214A
5B>2C>J6B>(Walk forward)>2C>236A> CS>VO(Whiff)>214C>623B>5B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>6C>41236D
5B>2C>6B>2C>236A>66C>236C>CS>VO(Whiff)>214C>623B>41236D
5B>2C>236A>Release>236C>CS>VO>214C>623B>41236D

2B Starter

2B>2C>6B>3B>623B>(Walk backwards)>j.6B>Dash C>236B>(Walk backwards)>Charged j.C>236C>CS>VO>2C>214C>41236C

3B Starter

3B>j.C>j.B>2C>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>2C
3B>j.C>j.B>j.A>5B>2C>6B>5B(Whiff)>5B>623B>2C
3B>j.C>j.B>j.A>2C>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>2C

2C Starter

2C>5BB>j.C>JB>2C>3C>22B
2C>5BB>j.C>j.B>2C>214B>236C>(Switch sides)>Charged j.C>2B>2C>623A>66C

3C Starter

3C>623B>2C>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C
3C>623B>2C>6B>2C>236A>(Switch sides)>j.A>j.C>j.B>2C

6C Starter

Charged 6C>623A>5B>j.C>j.B>2C
Charged 6C>623A>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C
Charged 6C>6 B+C>Activation>Charged j.C>2B>j.B>j.A>j.C>3B>2C
Charged 6C>214B>236C>Charged j.C>2B>2C>j.6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>66C
Charged 6C>22A>3B>j.B>j.C>2C>3B>623B>(Walk backwards)>j.6B>Dash C>236B>(Walk backwards)>Charged j.C>j.236B>Dash C>Charged 214A

j.A Starter

Assault j.A>236A(hit)>5A>2C>j.6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>66C
Assault j.A>CS>j.B>5A>2C>j.6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>66C
Assault j.A>Activation>2C>j.6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>66C

j.C Starter

Assault j.C>5A>2C>J6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>66C
Assault j.C>5A>2C>J6B>Walk backwards>2C>5B(Whiff)>5B>623B>2C
Assault j.C>5A>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C
Assault j.C>5A>2C>236A>(Switch sides)>Charged j.C>2B>2C>623A>66C
Assault j.C>5A>2C>3C>22B>214C>66C>236A>Charged j.C>623A>66C
Assault j.C>5A>2C>j.6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>2C>236C>CS>VO(Whiff)>41236D
Charged j.C>2B>2C>j.6B>j.C>j.B>j.A>3B>2C>623A>66C

"Force Function" Starter

6B+C>Activation>2C>6B>2C>236A> Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C

"Spin!" Starter

236A>2C>236A> Charged j.C>J6B>2C>623A>2B>j.B>j.A>j.C>3B>2C
236A>j.C>j.B>2C>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>2C
236A>63214C>CS>236A>Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C

"Mash them!" Starter

623A>5BB>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C
623B>2C>6B>2C>236A> Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C

"Rip apart!" Starter

214C>5B>6B>2C>236A>Charged j.C>2B>j.A>j.B>j.C>3B>2C

"Hand that over!" Starter

63214C>CS>j.6B>2C>236A>j.C>j.B>5B>j.A>j.B>j.C>2C

CORNER: